Monday, January 17, 2005

An idea about CD ripping
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Remember my post about Davyd Madeley's Gnome 2.10 what-to-expect page ? Well, I loaded it again today and I saw it became bigger and bigger. It still says it's a "Work in Progress" so I think we'll have to keep an eye on it!
There some kind of 'competition' between Sound Juicer and Goobox for becoming Gnome's CD-rip application. I think there shouldn't be a specific CD-ripping app in gnome, it should be more integrated. What if I could just insert a music CD, nautilus opens a window with an icon for every track and if I drag (some of) those icons to the desktop it presents me a little dialog where I can chose which encoding to use (default ogg). I think it would be much more intuitive, no ? And for CD playing, that should be done by Gstreamer in Totem or whatever media application.

Please give me your thoughts about this as a comment ;)




Blogger Michael Dominic K knowledgely replied ...

>> I think there shouldn't be a specific CD-ripping app
>> in gnome, it should be more integrated.

I don't think it's a good idea... too much "integration" is bad (Windows style). I don't think Gnome (by default) should even contain a CD-ripping application. It should be up to the Distro (that ships gnome) to choose a Ripping application (same with default media player). You never get Gnome "alone". You always get it as a part of a distribution.

Of course, that doesn't mean that application developers should not think about integration. It would be cool to have a cd-ripping app that works deag&drop (like you say). But it shouldn't be part of the Gnome project itself.

2:29 PM, January 17, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous knowledgely replied ...

i agree entirely with the idea of integration, it's always annoyed me that these *.cda files windows displays me are pretty pointless - why can't i manipulate them just like any other file

what's annoying me of late with gnome development is that decisions are being made to change things which aren't broken and for which there are no guidelines on

2:40 PM, January 17, 2005  
Blogger Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal knowledgely replied ...

When you put an Audio CD in your CD-ROM you want one of two things.

1. You want to play the music (most common IMO)
2. You want to import (rip) the music.

So launching a cd-player application that has the option of importing the tracks, seems like a good idea to me. This seems to be the direction that both of the mentioned applications are headed.

3:10 PM, January 17, 2005  
Blogger Karel Demeyer knowledgely replied ...

Maybe I formulated it a bit bad. What I wanted to say, is: "we should not have a CD ripping/playing" utility IN Gnome. I'd like to have those features though the way I presented it. And, it should be possible to have a CD playing app (that's capable of ripping too) laoded when an audio CD is entered, but it should not be in the Gnome core. what about this ? :D

3:31 PM, January 17, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous knowledgely replied ...

Personally, I like Karel's idea. Dragging icons from a window to the desktop would be rather neat, I think.

However, it might be best left to a Nautilus plugin (do those even exist? Nautilus should have an extensible architecture, if it doesn't already). If it's a plugin, then The people that want it can install it, and the people that don't want it won't have it. Problem solved.

The plugin wouldn't be too hard to make, either... Just some hooks into Nautilus and connect it to Gstreamer... Hmmmmm.

7:21 PM, January 17, 2005  
Blogger Karel Demeyer knowledgely replied ...

Nice :D
I registered myself on the gnome-desktop-devel email list to request this. You can follow it here:

7:26 PM, January 17, 2005  
Blogger Ed Crypt knowledgely replied ...

The integration (drag'n drop) Idea Is good, but I think that a front end is the first thing that the user will search.
There are too possibilities: Adding Audio-CD Burning and CD Ripping, both sound related, into Rhythmbox and make it more boloated, or put more 2 applications in the Multimedia section.

7:31 PM, January 17, 2005  
Blogger Rafael knowledgely replied ...

AFAIK, KDE Offered this functionality on version 2, don't know if it's still there today (coincidentally, it was on version 2 that I switched from KDE to Gnome). Mac OS X also offers this, the files are saved on the AIFF format (same thing as WAV).

5:33 AM, January 19, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous knowledgely replied ...

Use grip, automatic rips CD when inserted.
In every Format you want as a default.
Why is everybody forgetting Grip ?

8:33 AM, May 11, 2006  

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